The 2026 Padres are a projection system darling for the under—and a franchise that has burned under bettors three of the last four years. That tension defines every angle of this preview. San Diego enters the season with a consensus sportsbook win total of 85.5 at both DraftKings (-105/-115) and BetMGM (-110/-110), while every major projection system pegs them closer to 80–83 wins, creating a 3–5 win gap that represents either the market’s smartest fade or its most obvious trap. The Padres went 90-72 in 2025, matched their Pythagorean expectation to the game, then watched their ace walk in free agency, their farm system crater to dead last, and their manager retire. They replaced those losses with prove-it contracts, a rookie skipper, and a bullpen that might be the best in baseball history. Welcome to the most fascinating over/under bet of the 2026 season.
The backstory matters. San Diego posted back-to-back 90-win seasons for the first time in franchise history (93 in 2024, 90 in 2025) yet exited October early both times—a five-game NLDS loss to the Dodgers, then a Wild Card Series elimination by the Cubs. Run differential in 2025 was a robust +81 (702 runs scored, 621 allowed), but the team’s offensive profile—28th in home runs, 22nd in slugging—screams regression in a sport increasingly built on power. The departure of Dylan Cease to Toronto and Luis Arraez to San Francisco, combined with Yu Darvish’s season-ending elbow surgery, strips away two of the roster’s most reliable contributors. Yet the market still sets the line at 85.5, roughly 5 wins above where the computers think this team belongs.
The projection systems are bearish, but history says bet carefully
Every major projection engine sees the Padres as an around-.500 club that gets to watch the Dodgers run away with the NL West by double digits. FanGraphs Depth Charts is the most pessimistic at 79–83 wins with just a 22.3% playoff probability. PECOTA lands at 80–82 wins (30.6% playoff odds), and Steamer’s .496 win percentage translates to roughly 80 wins. ZiPS is the outlier at 83–79, the most optimistic system, but even its creator Dan Szymborski cautions that the projection represents “a fragile 90 wins—a few rotation injuries could unravel things.”
| Projection System | Projected W-L | Playoff Odds | NL West Finish |
|---|---|---|---|
| FanGraphs Depth Charts | 79-83 | 22.3% | 4th |
| PECOTA | 80-82 | 30.6% | 3rd |
| ZiPS | 83-79 | 41.9% | 3rd |
| Steamer | ~80-82 | Unverified | Unverified |
The NL West win total landscape reinforces the Dodgers’ dominance. Los Angeles sits at 102.5–103.5 wins across books, followed by the Padres (83.5–85.5), Giants (81.5), Diamondbacks (79.5, with the over juiced at -120), and Rockies (53.5–55.5). The Padres are +700 to win the division at DraftKings, +2800 for the World Series at Bovada, and -130 to make the playoffs. The middle of the NL West—San Diego, San Francisco, Arizona—projects as a three-way dogfight where any team could finish second or fourth.
But before you slam the under, consider the Padres’ historical win total record. They’ve cleared their preseason line in three of the last four seasons:
| Year | Preseason Line | Actual W-L | Result |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | ~33.5 (60-game) | 37-23 | OVER |
| 2021 | ~88.5-90.5 | 79-83 | UNDER |
| 2022 | ~84.5-86.5 | 89-73 | OVER |
| 2023 | ~89.5 | 82-80 | UNDER |
| 2024 | ~87.5-89.5 | 93-69 | OVER |
| 2025 | 85.5-89.5 | 90-72 | OVER |
The pattern: San Diego underperforms when the line is set high (2021 and 2023 both opened near 89–90) and overperforms when the market is skeptical. At 85.5, the 2026 line sits in the zone where the Padres have historically beaten expectations. AJ Preller’s front office also has a documented tendency to make aggressive trade deadline acquisitions—the 2025 deadline saw five trades and 22 players involved, headlined by Mason Miller from Oakland—which inflates second-half win rates in ways projection systems can’t model in March.
The offseason transaction ledger tells the story of a team replacing expensive production with cheap volatility. The departures are significant: Cease (7-year deal with Toronto), Arraez (joined the Giants), Robert Suarez (Atlanta), and effectively Darvish (internal brace procedure, out all season). Cease alone accounted for 200+ strikeouts for a fifth consecutive year. Arraez led the league with 181 hits. Suarez was the established closer. The additions are headlined by Michael King’s 3-year, $75 million re-signing and a collection of prove-it arms: Walker Buehler (minor league deal), Germán Márquez (1-year, $1.75 million), and Griffin Canning (1-year deal). The position player additions—Nick Castellanos on a subsidized 1-year deal ($780K, Phillies paying the rest), Miguel Andujar (1-year, $4 million), and KBO signing Sung-Mun Song (4-year, $15 million, opening on IL)—are depth plays, not lineup upgrades.
A rotation held together by hope, health, and Petco Park’s marine layer
The 2026 Padres rotation is simultaneously the team’s biggest risk and the variable most likely to determine whether the over or under hits. Nick Pivetta anchors the staff after a career-best 2025 campaign: 2.87 ERA, 3.49 FIP, 0.99 WHIP across 181.2 innings with 190 strikeouts against 50 walks. His 9.41 K/9 and 2.48 BB/9 reflect genuine improvement, and his Statcast profile backs it up—88th percentile K rate, 80th percentile walk rate, fastball averaging approximately 95 mph (a career high). His times-through-the-order splits showed typical degradation (.239/.250/.269 batting average against, first through third pass), and his pitch-count endurance was strong (.224 opponent BA on 101+ pitches). Spring training brought a brief scare—an arm fatigue–related skipped start around March 8—but he’s building toward Opening Day and remains the overwhelming choice to start March 26 against Detroit. The concern: Pivetta’s .256 wOBA allowed versus .310 xwOBA suggests his surface ERA benefited from some sequencing luck. Regression toward a mid-3.00s ERA is the base case.
Michael King is the highest-ceiling arm when healthy but enters 2026 surrounded by red flags. His 2025 was wrecked by shoulder nerve issues and a knee injury, limiting him to 73.1 innings across 15 starts (3.44 ERA, 4.42 FIP, 1.20 WHIP). The 2024 breakout—2.95 ERA, 201 strikeouts in 173.2 innings—showed what a healthy King delivers: a sinker (.192 BAA), changeup (.200 BAA), and slider (.219 BAA) that generate whiffs across all three offerings, with only his four-seam fastball (.329 BAA) representing a genuine weakness. His spring has been alarming: 0-2 with a 10.19 ERA through limited Cactus League appearances. The Padres may employ a six-man rotation early to manage his workload. Statcast showed 87.8 mph exit velocity allowed and 38.1% hard-hit rate in 2025—strong contact-quality suppression—but the 11.4% barrel rate was slightly elevated.
Behind those two, the depth gets thin fast. Randy Vásquez (3.84 ERA, 133.2 IP in 2025) is the rotation’s biggest regression candidate. His surface numbers mask deeply troubling peripherals: 5.51 xFIP, 5.43 SIERA, 4.6% K-BB% (third-lowest among 130+ IP pitchers), a .261 BABIP suggesting defensive fortune, and a 77.4% LOB rate well above the league average. His 5.25 K/9 means he can’t overpower hitters, and lefties have historically crushed him (.365/.421/.539 BAA in 2024). The saving grace: he posted a sensational 80.8% NRFI rate in 2025 (21-5), including a 92.3% home NRFI rate, making him one of the league’s most bankable first-inning pitchers despite questionable underlying stuff.
Walker Buehler arrives on a minor-league deal after a miserable 2025 split between Boston and Philadelphia (4.93 ERA, 1.55 WHIP, 16.3% walk rate). He hasn’t been the same pitcher since his second Tommy John surgery. But the late-season signal was encouraging: 2.53 ERA in his final seven outings, and he dominated in the 2024 postseason (10 scoreless innings in his last three playoff appearances). Spring training has been legitimately promising—5 shutout innings against the Giants with 7 strikeouts on 77 pitches, velocity back to 95 mph, and reports indicating his elbow is pain-free for the first time since 2022. Manager Craig Stammen noted he’s “coming into that second evolution of his career.” If the spring version shows up in the regular season, Buehler is the steal of the offseason. If the 2025 regular-season version shows up, he’ll be DFA’d by June.
Germán Márquez completes the rotation after a brutal 2025 with Colorado (3-16, 6.70 ERA, 1.71 WHIP). Context matters: that was his first full season after Tommy John surgery, pitching for a team that lost 119 games, with a 9.82 first-inning ERA through his first 15 starts and a cavernous home-road split. His road ERA against non-NL West teams was a respectable 3.11 in 43.2 innings. Moving from Coors Field to Petco Park represents the single biggest ballpark upgrade in baseball—a shift from the game’s most extreme hitter’s park to one of its most suppressive environments. His spring has been mixed (9.26 ERA overall, but a recent 5-inning outing against the Mariners featured 9 strikeouts and 95 mph velocity). The price is right at $1.75 million.
Joe Musgrove remains the wild card. Recovering from Tommy John surgery performed in October 2024 after his UCL tore during the 2024 Wild Card Game, he threw 60 pitches in an exhibition on March 4 (2+ IP, fastball averaging 94 mph) before being shut down with a “cranky” arm. He’ll open 2026 on the injured list with no firm return date. When healthy, his career 3.20 ERA in 559 Padres innings makes him a frontline arm. His return could flip the rotation from a weakness to a strength.
The lineup can hit for average but not for power
San Diego’s 2025 offense was a paradox: 7th in batting average (.252) and 9th in OBP (.321), but 28th in home runs (152) and 22nd in slugging (.390). The team scored just 702 runs (18th), a number artificially suppressed by Petco Park but also reflective of a lineup that hits singles and draws walks without generating the impact damage that wins games in bunches. The 106 stolen bases (18th) add some supplementary value but don’t compensate for the power deficit.
Fernando Tatis Jr. remains the engine. His 2025 slash of .267/.367/.446 with 25 home runs and 32 stolen bases (125 wRC+, approximately 5.0+ fWAR) represented a transformation in approach—his 18.7% strikeout rate was a career best, down from 21.9% in 2024, and his Statcast profile screamed elite: 93.3 mph average exit velocity (93rd–95th percentile), 51.8% hard-hit rate (93rd percentile), .370 xwOBA. The concern is second-half fade—he slashed .205/.314/.325 after May 16 per some reports—but his WBC performance this spring (.400/.538/.700 with two homers) suggests the approach gains are sticky. His player props at Bovada sit at 27.5 HR (O/U), 25.5 SB (O/U, over juiced -120), and 80.5 RBI (O/U), all at -115. The stolen base over looks like the sharpest play given his 32-steal 2025 and elite sprint speed.
Manny Machado, entering his age-33 season, delivered another quietly excellent year: .275/.335/.460, 27 HR, 95 RBI, 123 wRC+ across 159 games. His 51.4% hard-hit rate was a career best, and his 12.9% barrel rate remained above average. This was his 10th consecutive 25-homer season. The Bovada prop line of 28.5 HR is set slightly above his 2025 output—a lean to the under unless you believe the hard-hit gains represent a genuine mechanical improvement rather than a one-year fluctuation.
Jackson Merrill’s sophomore season was derailed by injuries (hamstring, concussion, ankle), limiting him to 115 games and a .264/.317/.457 line (112 OPS+) after a sensational rookie year (.292/.326/.500, 24 HR). His Statcast profile remained explosive: 42.6% launch-angle sweet spot (99th percentile), 13% barrel rate (82nd percentile). But the 5.8% walk rate and 7th-percentile chase rate reveal an aggressive hitter who can be exploited. At 22, the upside is enormous. His 22.5 HR over/under at Bovada looks appealing if he stays healthy for 145+ games—he hit 16 in just 115 contests.
The rest of the lineup carries varying degrees of concern. Xander Bogaerts (~.255/.328/.390, .718 OPS) showed modest improvement from a disastrous 2024 but remains a shadow of his Boston self, with his barrel rate sitting at 8th percentile early in the season. Jake Cronenworth (.246/.330/.414, .744 OPS) provides elite plate discipline (13.4% walk rate) but limited impact. Ramón Laureano delivered a career year (.281/.342/.512, 138 wRC+, 24 HR) split between Baltimore and San Diego—his .930 OPS versus right-handers makes him a valuable piece, but the .801 OPS against lefties and -9 OAA in the outfield temper expectations. The new additions—Castellanos (.250/.294/.400, 90 wRC+ with Philadelphia) and Andujar (.318/.352/.470, 125 wRC+, .987 OPS versus lefties)—are platoon bats replacing Luis Arraez’s elite contact production. Freddy Fermin handles the catching duties with solid defense and near-average offense.
Baseball’s best bullpen gives San Diego a structural betting edge
The 2025 Padres bullpen posted a 3.06 ERA—the best in Major League Baseball—and the 2026 edition might be even better. Multiple outlets project it as the consensus No. 1 bullpen in the sport entering the season. The headliner is Mason Miller, formally named closer by new manager Craig Stammen, who posted a combined 2.63 ERA with a 0.91 WHIP between Oakland and San Diego in 2025. His numbers after the trade deadline were absurd: 0.77 ERA, 0.73 WHIP, and 45 strikeouts in 23.1 innings with the Padres. His 43.1% strikeout rate as a reliever over the last two years and 103 mph fastball make him arguably the most dominant closer in baseball. His slider generated a .108 opponent batting average in 2025.
Adrián Morejón (2.08 ERA, 0.90 WHIP, .186 opponent BA, 30.7% hard-hit rate allowed at the 99th percentile) made his first All-Star team as a swiss-army-knife reliever who pitched everywhere from the fourth inning to the ninth. Jason Adam (1.93 ERA before a September ruptured quad tendon) is the primary setup man if healthy—his timeline is uncertain but he’s expected back early in the season. Jeremiah Estrada rounds out the high-leverage group with approximately 108 strikeouts in 73 innings across 77 appearances.
This bullpen configuration creates a specific betting dynamic. In 2024, the Padres posted a 59-62-11 F5 moneyline record but finished 93-69 overall—meaning the bullpen flipped approximately 34 potential losses into wins. The 2025 partial data showed the same pattern: the Padres covered the F5 run line in 38 of their last 63 home games at one point (+10.50 units, 14% ROI), but the full-game results were even better. For bettors, this means full-game moneylines and run lines offer more value than F5 bets with the Padres, as the bullpen advantage compounds in the late innings.
Stammen, a former reliever himself (562 career appearances), is expected to deploy the pen aggressively. He’s already discussed using “bridge” arms to span from starters to the high-leverage back end, and he’s considering opening the season without a fifth starter, using bullpen depth to cover early spots.
Petco Park’s marine layer and the under-the-hood defensive numbers
Petco Park remains one of baseball’s premier pitcher-friendly environments. The 3-year runs park factor sits at 0.948, suppressing scoring by roughly 5%. The HR factor of 1.070 overall is deceptive—it splits dramatically by handedness, with left-handed hitters facing a 0.931 HR factor while right-handed hitters benefit from the short 322-foot right-field porch. Singles (0.919 factor), doubles (0.936), and triples (0.776) are all suppressed by the spacious dimensions: 336 feet to left, 396 to center, 391 to right-center.
The atmospheric variable that defines Petco is the marine layer—a dense band of humid coastal air that settles over downtown San Diego, particularly during evening games from May through June. FanGraphs research confirmed that “when May hits in San Diego, Petco Park is full of crosswinds that kill offense about as well as the gusts that blow in.” The local phenomena known as “May Gray” and “June Gloom” bring persistent overcast conditions (75–86% sunny days in those months) with temperatures in the upper 60s to low 70s. April games play in warmer, drier air (68°F average high) before the marine layer intensifies. Rain is functionally nonexistent from May through October.
The Padres leveraged this environment to an extraordinary degree in 2025: 52-29 at home (.642) versus 38-43 on the road (.469)—a 14-game split that ranked among the largest in baseball. Their pitching staff allowed opponents to bat just .224 (best in MLB), a number enhanced by the park’s ability to turn hard-hit fly balls into warning-track outs.
Defensively, the 2025 Padres ranked 3rd in MLB in defensive efficiency (.717), trailing only the Cubs and Rangers. Tatis Jr. was elite in right field (+15 DRS, +10 FRV), and Merrill provided solid coverage in center. The weakest link is second base, where Cronenworth posted a career-worst -8 DRS and -1 OAA, costing approximately 8 runs over a full season—roughly 0.8 WAR in defensive value alone. Behind the plate, Fermin profiles as an above-average defensive catcher with 90th-percentile pop time and positive framing metrics (+1 FRV with San Diego), replacing the elite-framing but offensively challenged Martín Maldonado.
Betting angles from 2025 that carry into the new season
The 2025 Padres were one of baseball’s most profitable betting teams. Their run line record finished approximately 91-73 ATS, generating +10.2 units by late August before compressing slightly to end the year. The moneyline record was 93-71 for +2.80 units (+1.17% ROI), a modest but consistent profit across 164 decisions.
The under was the dominant theme for most of the season. Padres games went under in 79 of 154 decided totals, driven by the league’s third-best team ERA (3.63) and Petco Park’s suppressive environment. By late August, the under had generated +11.55 units at a 7.84% ROI before late-season offensive surges eroded the edge slightly.
The NRFI market was a particular goldmine. The team’s overall NRFI rate was approximately 57% (top 8 in MLB), but individual starters varied widely. The pitcher-specific records are critical intelligence for 2026:
| 2025 Starter | Overall NRFI | Home NRFI | 2026 Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| Nick Pivetta | 74.2% (23-8) | 70.6% (12-5) | SP1 |
| Randy Vásquez | 80.8% (21-5) | 92.3% (12-1) | SP3 |
| Dylan Cease | 71.9% (23-9) | 81.3% (13-3) | Departed (TOR) |
| Michael King | 73.3% (11-4) | 70.0% (7-3) | SP2 |
Vásquez’s 92.3% home NRFI rate is elite—his approach of pitching to contact early in games, combined with Petco Park’s run suppression, creates one of baseball’s most reliable first-inning plays. That Pivetta, the ace, also cleared 70% at home reinforces the Petco NRFI angle.
The Padres’ moneyline performance as underdogs was notably strong: 31-33 (48.4% win rate), including 12-16 at +120 or longer. A 48.4% underdog win rate against plus-money odds represents consistent value. Given that the 2026 Padres project to be underdogs more frequently—especially on the road against playoff-caliber opponents—this trend is worth monitoring in the early going.
Across the three-year window (2023–2025), two macro trends stand out. First, the Padres have been a consistent under play driven by elite pitching, and the 2026 bullpen (projected No. 1) preserves that edge even as the rotation weakens. Second, the team’s home-road split has widened dramatically—2024 featured an elite road record (48-33) while 2025 saw a severe road decline (38-43). The 2026 schedule and travel demands will likely determine which version prevails.
The schedule has clear inflection points for bettors
The Padres open March 26 at home against the Detroit Tigers in what is the earliest traditional Opening Day in MLB history. The initial homestand—six games against Detroit and San Francisco through April 1—is a favorable start in Petco’s pre-marine-layer conditions. The first road trip (at Boston April 3–5, at Pittsburgh April 6–8) tests the team’s road mettle early.
Division play features 13 games against each NL West rival (52 total). The signature series is a 4-game set at Dodger Stadium over July 4th weekend (July 2–5)—the toughest stretch on the calendar against the back-to-back World Series champions in a hostile environment. The Padres-Diamondbacks Mexico City Series (April 25–26) at Alfredo Harp Helú Stadium adds a neutral-site wrinkle. The season-ending home series against Arizona (September 25–27) could carry playoff implications.
The most favorable windows include the April 9–16 homestand (Colorado and Seattle, both projected below .500), the May 1–3 home series against the White Sox, and the May 22–24 set versus the Athletics. The most treacherous stretch is the 10-game road trip from July 17–26—at Kansas City, at Atlanta (4 games against a contender), at Miami—which ABC 10News flagged as the longest road trip of 2026. The June 12–21 corridor (9 consecutive road games at Baltimore, St. Louis, and Texas) is another grind spot where under bets and underdog moneylines become particularly relevant.
A notable structural change: the Automated Ball/Strike Challenge System debuts league-wide in 2026. Each team gets two challenges per game on ball-strike calls. This could subtly affect NRFI rates and pitcher-specific betting angles, as borderline first-pitch strikes become contestable.
Player props where the data suggests an edge
The sharpest player prop angle is Jackson Merrill over 22.5 home runs (-115, Bovada). He hit 16 in just 115 games in 2025 with a 13% barrel rate (82nd percentile) and 99th percentile launch-angle sweet spot. A full 150-game season projects to roughly 21 homers using his 2025 rate—but his 2024 pace (24 HR in a full season) and natural age-22 development curve suggest the over is a reasonable lean at coin-flip juice.
Tatis over 25.5 stolen bases (-120, Bovada) is the other prop backed by strong data. He stole 32 bags in 2025 with elite sprint speed, and his move from the leadoff spot to the 3-4 hole doesn’t necessarily reduce opportunities—hitters in those spots still run when the game situation warrants it, and Stammen has indicated he wants an aggressive baserunning approach.
On the pitcher side, season-long props for King and Pivetta were not yet widely available at major sportsbooks as of late March. King’s per-game strikeout prop was set at 5.5 K at BetMGM during 2025 home games, where he averaged 7.6 K—a significant overshoot. If healthy for 28+ starts in 2026, his 10.4 K/9 rate from the 2024 breakout makes him one of the NL’s elite strikeout arms, and his season K total (when posted) will likely carry value on the over.
Machado under 28.5 HR (-115, Bovada) deserves consideration. He hit exactly 27 in 2025 and turns 34 in July. While his hard-hit rate was a career best, the aging curve for third basemen tends to erode power in the mid-30s. Petco’s LHB HR factor of 0.931 doesn’t help a right-handed hitter who pulls the ball, but the park’s overall HR factor of 1.070 somewhat neutralizes this.
| Player | Prop | Line | Lean | Key Data Point |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tatis Jr. | Stolen Bases | O/U 25.5 | Over | 32 SB in 2025, elite speed |
| Merrill | Home Runs | O/U 22.5 | Over | 16 HR in 115 G; 99th pctl launch angle |
| Machado | Home Runs | O/U 28.5 | Lean Under | 27 HR in 2025; age-34 season |
| Machado | RBI | O/U 89.5 | Push | 95 RBI in 2025 but weaker lineup around him |
| Tatis Jr. | Home Runs | O/U 27.5 | Push | 25 HR in 2025; 2nd-half power drop |
The win total verdict depends on which version of the rotation materializes
The core question for the 2026 Padres isn’t talent—it’s depth. The top of the roster (Tatis, Machado, Merrill, Miller, Morejón, Pivetta, King when healthy) is genuinely excellent. But the bottom half of the rotation—Vásquez (regression candidate), Buehler (injury risk), Márquez (Coors refugee)—represents one of the widest confidence intervals in baseball. If Buehler’s pain-free spring translates to a full season, if Márquez’s change of scenery produces a sub-4.00 ERA at Petco, and if Musgrove returns by May, this rotation could support 87+ wins. If two of those three bets lose, the Padres are looking at 78-win territory.
The bullpen provides a floor. A relief corps this dominant—potentially the best in baseball—can paper over 5–10 rotation implosions per month, which is why the full-game betting angle consistently outperforms F5 markets for this team. The defense (3rd in efficiency) and the park (run-suppressive) further insulate the pitching.
The market’s 85.5 line prices in roughly one standard deviation of optimism above projections. The projection systems say 80–83; the sportsbooks say 85.5; history says the Padres beat their line three of four years. AJ Preller’s deadline tendencies—he’s been a major buyer in five of the last six trade windows—provide an asymmetric upside modifier that projection systems categorically ignore. The farm system is barren (30th), but Preller has historically spent from payroll flexibility and future draft capital rather than current prospects.
The sharpest position is likely a small-unit play on the over 85.5 at -105 on DraftKings, with the understanding that you’re betting on (a) historical over-performance against the line, (b) the best bullpen in baseball providing a results floor above true-talent projections, and (c) Preller making a deadline acquisition that adds 2–3 wins. The under is the higher-probability play based on raw projections, but the juice differential (-105 over vs. -115 under) already reflects that the market knows the projections are bearish. If you prefer the under, Bovada’s 84.5 at -115 offers a full win of additional cushion.
Conclusion: the most dangerous under-the-radar team in the National League
The 2026 Padres are not a contender in the traditional sense—the Dodgers have 15+ projected wins of separation, and the roster has too many question marks for a division crown. But they’re the most dangerous under-the-radar team in the National League, loaded with a bullpen that can carry games, a top-four lineup core that ranks among the NL’s best, and a front office with the institutional aggression to upgrade at the deadline. For bettors, the daily opportunities—NRFI plays behind Vásquez and Pivetta at Petco, full-game run lines backed by the bullpen, underdog moneylines on the road—may ultimately generate more profit than the season-long win total. This is a team built for in-season exploitation, not preseason conviction.